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What BBN said on air. The facts are in the original report: Variety.

  1. Gloria VanceVariety reports that star-driven flops at the Chinese box office are one reason China has a thin presence at festivals this year.

  2. Gloria VanceTokyo festival programming director Ichiyama Shozo says casting a star used to guarantee a certain degree of success. You are a star.

  3. Gloria VanceIs that still true?

  4. Torvald Mbeki-RaoYes. Absolutely. A famous face guarantees something. A table, by the window, and a waiter who says my name wrong.

  5. Gloria VanceA table.

  6. Torvald Mbeki-RaoOff the record, I get a very good table. Everyone knows my name at the table.

  7. Gloria VanceVariety also cites slowing investment and a reportedly more complicated censorship process. So tell us about the new project.

  8. Torvald Mbeki-RaoIt's called Even If Hell Came. I play a young Italian partisan holding out in the Alps in the winter of nineteen forty-four.

  9. Gloria VanceAlone?

  10. Torvald Mbeki-RaoMostly with this shovel. I used it in every scene, and I will not be told it was a prop.

  11. Gloria VanceYour last three films did not do well. Why should a festival programmer expect this one to?

  12. Torvald Mbeki-RaoThose were different times, and different snow. Off the record, one of them was a talking boat.

  13. Gloria VanceI asked why this one will do better.

  14. Torvald Mbeki-RaoBecause nobody else would make it. I called every studio. Even the ones that make cereal commercials.

  15. Gloria VanceThank you for that. Now a lightning round. Favorite festival city?

  16. Torvald Mbeki-RaoTokyo. Please invite me. Off the record, I already packed.

  17. Gloria VanceIchiyama says the Japanese competition filmmakers lack an international reputation so far. Is that you, too?

  18. Torvald Mbeki-RaoNo. I have a reputation. It travels ahead of me, and then it waits outside.

  19. Gloria VanceLast question. A star, a flop, or a guarantee?

  20. Torvald Mbeki-RaoStar, I'd say, but ask me again after Tokyo, and the shovel gets a vote too.

  21. Gloria VanceFinal plug, Mr. Mbeki-Rao.

  22. Torvald Mbeki-RaoEven If Hell Came, coming soon to a festival that hasn't heard of me yet.

  23. Torvald Mbeki-RaoOff the record, I'd like to be a guarantee of anything. A refund, even. I'd take a refund.

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