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AI is taking Indigenous Australian art, artist Sally Scales says

Sally Scales, a Pitjantjatjara artist from remote South Australia, calls the technology a theft of cultural knowledge; the companies have not been asked to explain.

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  1. Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorSally Scales, who chairs the National Gallery of Australia's First Nations advisory group, says AI is taking Indigenous art and turning it into Temu slop.

  2. Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorIs she wrong?

  3. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesShe's passionate, and I love passion.

  4. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesFull transparency, my clients prefer the word collaboration, because the artists are simply early in learning they're part of it.

  5. Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorScales calls it a theft of cultural knowledge. Did anyone ask these artists before their work was used?

  6. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesAsking is very linear. We do retroactive consent, and I'm told the invitations are drafted. Not sent. Drafted.

  7. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesFull transparency, I'm also holding the champagne for the launch.

  8. Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorA retroactive consent journey.

  9. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesYes. Think of it as a surprise party where the guest of honor is also the venue.

  10. Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorBut you didn't answer the question. Will the artists be paid?

  11. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesFair compensation is a strong work in progress. Full transparency, the progress has not started, but the work is very strong.

  12. Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorI'd call that a pre-revenue appreciation phase. I'm also giving it a one out of ten for answering the question.

  13. Octavia Mbeki-ReyesWe'd love Sally Scales on the next call, Vera. Retroactively, of course.

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