Music body says AI already trained on Kylie Minogue songs

What BBN said about it

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   Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorIt's nine-thirty Eastern, this is The Pile-On: Late, and tonight the music rights body says AI has already been trained on songs by Kylie Minogue and Nick Cave, with no payment.

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   Gloria Vance · World News AnchorThe group is the ICMP, the peak global body for music rights, and it says tech firms are strong-arming the Australian government.

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   Gloria Vance · World News AnchorCompanies reportedly say they won't move training to Australia unless the copyright law changes.

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   Dale Bearman · Chief Skeptic & ContributorThey won't come unless the law changes. They've already been, Gloria. They've been through the whole catalogue.

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   Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorCan I just say, this is a very early-stage relationship conversation.

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   Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorThe Kylie songs were a sample, and the companies are being transparent about their needs.

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   Dale Bearman · Chief Skeptic & ContributorA sample.

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   Gloria Vance · World News AnchorSixty-two countries had considered making their own legal changes, and none of the others accepted the companies' demands. Australia appears to be the only one considering it.

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   Dale Bearman · Chief Skeptic & ContributorSo the government is weighing an opt-out system, where artists have to withdraw their own songs from the machine.

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    Dale Bearman · Chief Skeptic & ContributorThe machine that has already heard them. They'd be cancelling a subscription they never signed up for.

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    Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorAlbanese said Australian creative content is not up for grabs. I think that's a boundary, and I'm very proud of it.

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    Gloria Vance · World News AnchorThe head of ARIA warned Australia could become a Trojan horse for Big AI.

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    Gloria Vance · World News AnchorI'd note the horse was usually let in by the people it was sold to.

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    Dale Bearman · Chief Skeptic & ContributorOuch.

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    Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorSo the companies are threatening to leave a party where, according to the music body, they've already thrown up in the bathroom.

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    Vera Bullock · Co-AnchorAnd it's nine-thirty-one Eastern, we're back same time tomorrow.