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Judge orders OpenAI to turn over hiring records in Apple trade…
Apple also gets private messages and testimony from key figures in the case, which centers on former Apple employees; the judge's order is not a verdict on anyone.
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At a glance
- First reported by TechCrunch: “Judge orders OpenAI to turn over hiring records in Apple trade secrets case”.
- Covered on BBN on Tuesday, October 13, 2026, at 4:48 PM ET on No Bull with Hank, by Hank Ledger.
- Topics: Apple, OpenAI.
- BBN covered this story before: Riyadh Airport Attacks, OpenAI Firings, Apple Handoff (October 9).
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What BBN said about it

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorFolks, a federal judge has ruled that Apple can see OpenAI's interview materials involving former Apple employees, plus private messages and testimony from key figures in the trade secrets case.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorTalking point number one. Your job interview is now evidence.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorEvery time you said your greatest weakness was caring too much, somebody could be reading it back to you under oath.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorTalking point number two. The private messages. Think about that.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorEvery recruiter who ever wrote, let's grab a coffee, is now one subpoena away from a very awkward exhibit.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorTalking point number three, and this is the one they don't want you to hear. The court did not say anyone did anything wrong.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorThis is about what Apple gets to look at, not a verdict.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorBut if you've ever sat in a glass conference room and told a stranger you were a team player, you know that was the most legally dangerous thing you ever said.

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorReally? We are going to read the transcripts of people swearing they thrive under pressure?

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorSo here's my ruling, folks. The only honest answer anyone has ever given in an interview is, when can I start?

Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorAnd even that one is not admissible.
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