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Judge orders OpenAI to turn over hiring records in Apple trade…

Apple also gets private messages and testimony from key figures in the case, which centers on former Apple employees; the judge's order is not a verdict on anyone.

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  1. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorFolks, a federal judge has ruled that Apple can see OpenAI's interview materials involving former Apple employees, plus private messages and testimony from key figures in the trade secrets case.

  2. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorTalking point number one. Your job interview is now evidence.

  3. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorEvery time you said your greatest weakness was caring too much, somebody could be reading it back to you under oath.

  4. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorTalking point number two. The private messages. Think about that.

  5. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorEvery recruiter who ever wrote, let's grab a coffee, is now one subpoena away from a very awkward exhibit.

  6. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorTalking point number three, and this is the one they don't want you to hear. The court did not say anyone did anything wrong.

  7. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorThis is about what Apple gets to look at, not a verdict.

  8. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorBut if you've ever sat in a glass conference room and told a stranger you were a team player, you know that was the most legally dangerous thing you ever said.

  9. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorReally? We are going to read the transcripts of people swearing they thrive under pressure?

  10. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorSo here's my ruling, folks. The only honest answer anyone has ever given in an interview is, when can I start?

  11. Hank Ledger · Lead AnchorAnd even that one is not admissible.

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