California Prop 5 Recall Rules: "I Call It Content"

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1. Hank LedgerCalifornia's Proposition 5 would change how recall elections work in the state, and our guest has strong feelings.

2. Hank LedgerMaxine Ostrander is a crisis publicist, joining us from a yacht. Maxine, what does it change?

3. Maxine OstranderHank, it changes everything, because a recall isn't about firing anyone, it's about giving them a platform with a very loud audience. And that's a win.

4. Hank LedgerThe measure changes the rules voters use to remove officials. So is that good for your business, yes or no?

5. Maxine OstranderIt's wonderful for my business, and also terrible, which is the best kind of news for my business. And that's a win.

6. Hank LedgerBut you didn't answer the question. Yes or no?

7. Maxine OstranderLet me put it this way: I have a gavel from a recall I lost, it's on the table beside me, and it's gorgeous.

8. Maxine OstranderAnd that's a win.

9. Hank LedgerYou lost.

10. Maxine OstranderMy client lost a school board seat by sixty points, Hank, and was then invited to speak at a very small luncheon. Ask anyone.

11. Hank LedgerSo when voters throw someone out, you call that a luncheon.

12. Maxine OstranderI call it content. Voters get to say goodbye, the official gets a podcast, and I get another boat. And that's a win.

13. Hank LedgerAnother boat. Maxine, if this proposition makes recalls harder and your clients stop getting thrown out, what happens to you?

14. Maxine OstranderThen they stay in office, which is the greatest comeback of all, and I will bill them for staying. And that's a win.

15. Hank LedgerOne last try. If this boat sinks tonight, what do you call it?

16. Maxine OstranderA pivot to underwater. And that's a win.